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The article you referred to is in issue 12 (winter 2007) page 8 of Woodturning design.
Thanks Colin. Now I can see if I can find that issue.
<p>Just wanted to see if this works.</p>
Sure it WOULDNT DARE NOT,
A hobby TOTALLY OUT OF CONTROL I guess. You’re really doing some new and different projects and they look pretty darn nice.
We’ll see you in a few weeks.———————-Greg
Just looked through the beginning of your website and think that it will be a really good thing, for me, to spend a little time seeing your hobby. I am a hobby metal spinner, but am looking at picking up some wood working skills as well. Looks like a found a really good website to accomplish it.
Be thrilled if you wandered around. Make sure that you subscribe with the RSS feed and you will directly know when I add something. I am barely a metal spinner but have some time behind me on the wood lathe, so maybe we can help each other out.
The world is your oyster, especially with the right software 😉
Nice work, keep it up!
Thanks. Do you think other turners would like a book on the subject?
I want one!
Looks good, but I can’t see the Donny tool very well. Can you make some biger pictures?
Oops, I just realized I could enlarge them. I did ‘t know the unit was clamped to the side of the tool. A picture is worth a million words. What is the bar sticking out of the left of the tool?
This is a unique design. When inside and hollowing a form the challenge is to hold the handle from rotating while cutting against the turning inner wall. As the bit cuts it wants to deflect downard changing the angle of the bit stopping the cut. Of course this all happens at high speed and is manifested as a vibration. There are many schemas for capturing the back of the handle used by turners today. In this design the bar (yoke as I call it) keeps the main bar from rotating. IE: the bar and the yoke interpose the tool rest and keep the force on the bit from turning the bar.
Great to see others using 3D software for design – keep it up! Look forward to seeing other examples with SketchUp. Off subject here but found the metal spinning info useful – got the tools never tried yet!
Thanks for visiting turnedoutright. If you are interested in a book on modelling check back it will be available soon.
Metal spinnning has introduced a new turn into this craft and I’m just learning. I would be happy to compare notes as you try out your new tools.
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More links to hook tools.
In response to your question, I’m not sure about a book. Being as the subject is computer-related, a CD or DVD would more likely have success, I think. Good luck with your project!
I think she will like this. Dad
I hoped so 🙂
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I think what you are doing/have done is admirable. It is a little disturbing to know that Omega is not interested. Is Bill R interested? Have you talked to him, and how did he react? Let me guess: Since you are willing to share the design and ideas free of charge, but unwilling to have anyone profit from them, he’s not picking up on it.
The paragraph on shaft design prompts me to make two comments:
1.) Oil light should be changed to read Oilite.
2.) You suggest future experiments with harder shaft materials. Don’t bother. All steels have virtually the same modulus of elasticity–it is this modulus which determines the deflection, so mild steel and tool steel will deflect the same amount. The difference is in the yield point, which determines when the material takes a permanent set after the load is removed. Since we are not bending our camshafts, yield point is not a problem.
Your initial experiments with two nuts proved this. However, if you could substitute a nut and stud made of high tensile steel, that would surely make a difference.
Thanks for an excellentjob and report.
Thanks for your visit and kind comments, you are the first one to comment. I expected a lot of activity when I first posted this but I guess not as many stubby users viewed this as a problem. I was amused that Bill called it the “banjo defect” in his recent forum post.
I concluded that Bill R is not the problem. As best I can tell he doesn’t get adequate support from Omega and tries his best to hide that fact from us. I traded emails with Omega when we decided to solve this defect , and they wined about not having the engineering expertise. It is scary to imagine that perhaps this lathe wasn’t designed by engineers at all. After I agreed to do the engineering for free they stopped answering my emails and Walt and I just went on to fix our own. I have been using mine for months now and am very pleased with the results.
Stubby is an awesome lathe, it just lacks the quality and finesse that comes from the staff of design and manufacturing engineers customary at larger manufacturors.
I also fixed the spelling error.
I appreciated reading your solution to the banjo locking issue. Months back you and I traded email on this topic and I installed the second nut on the bottom of the banjo. It has helped but am interested in trying your solution. I would be interested in purchasing the solution you have developed. Please let me know when you get some pricing back.
Regards and thanks for the input
We posted this months ago and as a result we didn’t pursue quotes. I have contacted Walt and asked him if he is interested in making one for you. Alternatively you can get the drawings from me and get one made at your favorite machine shop. I will let you know if Walt is interested if you send your email to me at donny@turnedoutright.
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You have worked so hard! It looks totally beautiful. It is so touching that you’re working so hard on a project with me in mind… I guess you really are trying to make up for rolling me up in the carpet!! haha. Seriously, I am very touched….What a great big bro you are…..
I like donny’s hat!
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Your a regular Houdini!
Your Stubby additions are sooo cool…way to go!
Thanks Jeff, I had fun doing it and so far it has shown to be very functional.
Well, that sounds interesting. Look forward to what you come up with.
I’d say though that a distinction needs to be made between the hollowing cutter and the cutter holder. Many variables in each as would be obvious.
On the former, Lyn Mangiamelli’s reviews on Fred Holder’s website are rather useful IMO.
On the latter, AFAIK there are devices that don’t rely on a toolgate.
(rsser on the Stubby group).
Good points my work is focussed on the holder per say. I’m interested in ways to stabilize the cutter with the bar constrained and internal lighting to get rid of external laser contraptions.
I use an outrigger set up regularly now with good results. The internal lighting is still a work in progress with lots of challenges.
At this point if you rotate the spindle does the point bob up and done a little bit? (checked with dial indicator0
The one in the tail stock looks like it is a live center. These have some play in the bearings with out load on them.
I will take and send a pick of my set up.
Great information, I have used clay in a couple of projects, mainly for accent pieces but never on this scale. Great idea.
Doug in AZ.
Thanks for visiting Doug,
I still have trouble getting it to bake consistently, when that is resolved I will be using it for many accents.
I like the black back drop!
I agree 🙂
I have been a frequent visitor of this blog for some time now, so I thought it would be a good idea to leave you with my thanks.
Thanks Jim. If I can ever be of help don’t hesitate to email or comment. Especially if there is something your would like to see on this blog!
Uncle Don this is ur nephew Jacob who lives in ALabama. I am sitting hear in my BTE class and was bored so I typed in Kleinschnitz. It popped up with ur wood turning site. I went on and saw that you have some pretty cool stuff on here! How are things going? What type of things are you currently working on? How long has it been since I saw you last? I think it was at the Christmas party where you showed me how to play poker. Up, the announcements just came on which means it is time for me to go. TTuL :]!
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the tailsock lift is a great idea as well as the storage of the centres on the tail stock. Thanks for sharing
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I sure that this piece was glad to rescued. I have a small pile of Russian Olive burl. Your turn here gives me an idea. Thanks.
Thanks for visiting Chris.
Its interesting how much attention this abandoned piece of wood got!
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Just a Thank You for such a great site. I am amazed I had not found it before! I came here from a message in rec.crafts.woodturning newsgroup. Some kind soul posted their collection of turning links and your site was in listed there.
You are welcome and thanks for stopping by the site. Make sure that you subscribe to the site with the RSS feed so you can get notified when something new is posted.
Hope you noticed the companion site: www.turnedoutright.blogspot.com
I like your site. It looks like you have been turning for a while. I’ve been at it for just over a year. Great hobby. I’ve been thinking of building a kiln 2x4x4 or maybe 2x2x4. Insulated and lightbulb heated. From the Blue Grass region of KY.
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Where do you get the mug inserts. I’ve searched without much luck
You can get the mugs at Woodcraft.
There is an alternate source in the Winter issue of American Woodturner.
Any progress on the lighting problem?
Have you tried out the Harbor Freight LED lights that come with a flexible tube so that you could tape the light to the hollowing tool?
Sorry it took me some time to get back to you since you wrote this comment I have been on an Alaska cruise and attended the Utah symposium.
I have not made any progress on the light experiment due to other distractions such as the “mothers day music” box.
However I learned from the last vessel that I need a much brighter light than the 3000mcd LEDs I have been using and I need a way to keep the wet shavings off the lens. I am planning on trying a halogen lamp that is fixed to the steady rest but is inside the vessel. I am looking for a good way to connect the lamp.
I think that the light level from the HF LED’s may be to weak.
Don nice blog. But I had to give up reading it. Problem is you’ve go sooo much info I want to read it all.
Here’s the problem; When clicking the back button after viewing a picture or reading a link you always end up at to top of the page. Now I have to page down a 1/2 dozen time to find my place. This get old pretty fast. Hope you figure it out when I come back.
I installed the Waldon Lock and for the first time since I got my Stubby, the banjo will lock down and not move. The movement has been the biggest problem I have had with the Stubby since day one. The best way to describe it is that it now works as good as a Woodfast!
I had a look at your depth gauge I like the idea you could turn it around and put a laser on the end and make it a bit higher and point directly onto the work, in cases when you need to make changer to the tailstock for deeper holes.
I would be interested in a starting guide to using Sketch book, starting out from cold is a big learning curve I see that on Utube you start with a lathe model – where did this come from?, just my two bob’s worth
I didn’t write a book on general SketchUp because its already been written.
You can get “SketchUp for Dummies” as it in most bookstores. www.aidanchopra.com/
Also their are many free online starting guides avail from Google which are sited in my book.
I made the movie myself and the modeling comes from the book “woodturning with Sketchup” sold on this site.
There are also useful SketchUp links on
www.turnedoutright.blogspot.com in the sidebar
For more info Email me firstname.lastname@example.org
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Very nicely done and several great tips for working with this material. Your son is right about the mortar and pestle. I give them as wedding gifts and include a poem I wrote:
It can be said the mortar and pestle
are very much like husband and wife.
but more to the fact
like husband and wife;
they only work,
when they work together.
Do you also make your Mortar & Pestle from solid surface?
Nice Poem, this could be modified for turning :
It can be said the mortar and pestle
are very much like a turner & wood.
but more to the fact
like a turner and wood;
they only work,
when they work together.
Ok…. so I’ll stick to turning…..
Sorry for the delay. I haven’t tried solid surfaces yet but your work has inspired me to do so. I fully endorse your woodturner’s poem. So true about working with the tool, lathe and wood. If you fight any one of them it won’t happen. Balance in our actions makes beautiful things.
I really like what you have done. I have been turning for loss than a year now I’m trying to set up avacuum system an I really like YOURS.
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Came across your website, and find it rather nice. On the drying, it does vary from region to region. I am in North Central Texas which is a high humidity region, and hot. I have a slightly large operation for my hobby/business. I have two solar kilns. Both 12′ long and 8′ in heighth. One is 3′ wide, and the other is 6′. I have both covered with heavy roofing metal, painted flat black. Both equipped with oven thermometers. They can get to about 160 in them. They are ventilated. After I rough out my blanks, for further drying, I coat them in either teak oil or danish oil. I do not ever use a top coat finish on any of my woodworking. Whether it is woodturnings, or furniture. Never seal wood for drying in plastic of any kind.
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This looks like a very interesting project. do you have to use corian or could you use something like cultured marble or granatex?
As I understand it these materials you are asking about are polymer blends. For that reason I would expect that they would turn similarly, but I have not tried it.
The addition of granite dust in the blend may be more abrasive to tools and would therefore recommend using the type tools I have shown.
If you try it let us know how it works.
Thank you and I will let you know when I actually get it done. Also, the lathe chuck I own is a 3 jaw chuck. Is it possible to lathe a square piece with a 3 jaw chuck?
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I have an oxy-mapp setup does that make any difference?
I believe that an oxy-mapp should work ok.
You just have to get the steel red hot.
You can tell if the steel is hot enough using a magnet.
After the steel turns red hot hold using a magnet to see if the red area is magnetic. The curi temperature of steel (when it is no longer magnetic) is close enough to the temperature you want. Heat the steel per the manuf specs. For W1 its 6min per 1/4 inch of steel. You can find these specs on MCMasterCarr
Grate idea can you tell my where you found the inserts I have made one but I had to tack apart on of my travel mugs thanks for the help
You can get mugs at:
Was looking at your video on turning corian. I have been doing pens and want to use corian for a few projects.
My question is do you have drawings for the special tools that you made?
I would like to make smaller ones for hard plastics and corian.
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See the post www.turnedoutright.com/2008/11/03/tools-for-solid-surface/
Very useful article.Do you have any video on this?
See the video link at the top of this post for the video.
Hi, can anyone tell me where I can buy the finished product? email@example.com
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It looks like this can also be used as a bed extension. Very clever.
I applaud your inventiveness, but I think it simply relocates the tailstock; it’s still going to be in the way when you want to work near/at the end of the lathe. Still, maybe those that need this solution due to strength issues will only working in front of their lathes.
Lighting: I have found that dental lights provide ideal illumination, albeit expensive. I have a pair to sell. These dental lights rotate about 2 sockets in a rail approx. 18 “above the power unit. These arms are approx. 30 inches long. A pantograph hidden in each arm maintains parallel orientation of two rotation-axes, as the arm is raised/lowered/rotated. Each lamp has one switch, and a handle to aid in positioning and aiming it with independent adjustment about 5 of its 6 axes of rotation. This elaborately engineered mechanism allows good flexibility for independently directing highly focused beams from the two dichroic Fresnel mirrors onto or into your turning. Please email me for more information and photographs. I will sell this pair of A-dec (Newberg, Oregon) lights for less than the cost of a single dental light on the web.
My favorite spot to stand when I turn bowls is at the end of the lathe. Don: does it bother you when you are in that position?
The jury is still out as to how much “in the way” the stowage will be. I will keep us updated as I turn a few more bowls.
Great idea, and a handy ‘weapon’ should someone try to take the remotes away from you!
All the very best!
Links to Facebook pages of turners would be cool, if you have them!
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Thanks for the information. Now i know what material to be use on making Sketch Up model of the mugs.
I like the bowls withe the colored internal rim, did you figure out the texturing process and the dying process or did you read about it on the internet. If it is on the internet can you send me the website?
I figured it out myself. The rim was turned with a bead interposing the center bowl and the rim. A power carver with a V bit was used (while on lathe) to carve the texture, turning the bowl using the tool rest as a guide for the carver. The outer and inner sections were masked and the textured areas dyed. Then the piece was returned to give sharp edges where the dye and un-dyed sections met.
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I would like to comission you to build this beehive and bee for my son, he loves bees. Would you be interested? I would like it by christmas if you have the time, please contact me.
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I created an online 3D tool that allows users to upload images of their blank block of wood and predict what it will look like when cut. It’s not a finished product, but I thought it might be of interest.
I use SketchUp and the book I wrote to model turnings…..
Very interesting nice job!!
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Great job! How did you import the picture? What formats will Sketchup allow you to import? Nice job on the finial shape. What tools did you use to accomplish the assymetrical curves? I’m impressed.
That material use?
Solid surface countertop
Checked out your turkey call….cool
Like the idea of you guys trying something new. It is a challenge to drill a hole that length. Did you do it in steps or all with a 11/4 drill?
I sometimes will take special orders. Tried to email you back with no response.
SketchUp will allow most standard (jpg, png) formats. I used the arch tools connected together (zoomed it up).
Just saw this, yes the call came out nice. Jack claims to have called a turkey in with it …….
We used the same drill but kept resetting the tail stock. Stay tuned for a setup with a gun drill we are working on.
Yes countertop material.
Normal web formats, Jpeg, Png.
All with one drill, pushed progressively through the blank.
Master the CA Finish
Bowls from Boards
Woodturning with Sketchup